Curse

Akaraxle · Aug 08, 2008, 04:59 PM // 16:59

Hahaha oh wow. Can't wait to read the reasons behind this.

Numa Pompilius · Aug 08, 2008, 05:14 PM // 17:14

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Originally Posted by R.Shayne

10% chance is just not enough.

It synergizes with itself, the more who bring it the more likely a "headshot" becomes. If all 8 members of the team bring it you do 8*90= 720 damage (before armor) with a 66% chance of doing at least 900 points more damage.
With QZ the spike recycles in 7 seconds.

WRT Azuran Scan even a warrior has enough energy to keep it up indefinitely, as long as he's using a zealous weapon; I tested on Master of Damage and got a sustained damage output on my dslash warrior of 84 (with QZ).

IrisLee · Aug 08, 2008, 05:16 PM // 17:16

They still need to buff Wastrel's Collapse.

I still don't understand why it's an elite.

EmptySkull · Aug 08, 2008, 05:22 PM // 17:22

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Originally Posted by JupiterStarWarrior

Thing about Sniper Support is that it's still got a 10% chance of hitting something with that uber-damage. I think I'll stick with the Assassin Support (that's been fun since I've Arcane Echo it).

Hey if you think [ebon vanguard assassin support] is good with arcane echo. How about trying [arcane echo]+[echo]+[ebon vanguard assassin support] Kill the boss quick and you can have 6 running around.

Akolo · Aug 08, 2008, 05:37 PM // 17:37

Best update ever. People are forced to think out builds to finish areas, and the "buffs" to pve skills makes you need less grinding.
A lot of new fun elite skills that were unused before

for once i have to say im happy with somethign that anet did (except for creating the game ofc

)

Kashrlyyk · Aug 08, 2008, 05:44 PM // 17:44

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Originally Posted by Faer

Evisc/DSlash Warriors do more damage.

And have no knockdown.

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Originally Posted by Yang Whirlwind

And you don't think bringing a ranger without UB and equipped with a mostly useless Elite to DoA combined with the fact that you have to get 5 rangers makes things a bit more difficult?
You will only have 4 UB's btw, if you still plan on bringing the standard 3 monks and the ranger.

Because coming up with a good P/R build with Oath Shot is too much for you??

Akolo · Aug 08, 2008, 05:48 PM // 17:48

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Originally Posted by Kashrlyyk

And have no knockdown.

brawling headbutt..

Earth · Aug 08, 2008, 05:49 PM // 17:49

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Originally Posted by seut

They aren't actually buffed. Their effects at max title rank stayed the same. The increase was for the lower ranks making the gap between min and max title effect smaller (= less benefit from grinding).

Ah, I see. Well, apart from the one or 2 that DID get buffed, this is very good.

EbilCat · Aug 08, 2008, 05:53 PM // 17:53

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Order of Undeath is now an alternative way to make one, powerful minion that persists longer at the expense of additional minions. This skill should give minion masters interesting options without crowding PvP areas with masses of minions.

Order of Undeath was fine the way it was in PvE, this should have been a PvP only change

moriz · Aug 08, 2008, 06:03 PM // 18:03

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Originally Posted by EbilCat

Order of Undeath was fine the way it was in PvE, this should have been a PvP only change

two words:

MINION BOMBER

landt007 · Aug 08, 2008, 06:06 PM // 18:06

update really sux lol

boogerboy72 · Aug 08, 2008, 06:08 PM // 18:08

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Originally Posted by moriz

two words:

MINION BOMBER

death nova says hi

x9. game over mobs.

someone try jb/oou, with 2 mms, enchant some with jb, then the other mm, blow them up, do they all die with no shamblings spawned?

DarkNecrid · Aug 08, 2008, 06:09 PM // 18:09

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And have no knockdown.

[Shock].

Don't leave home without it.

Alfrond · Aug 08, 2008, 06:10 PM // 18:10

Great update Anet. Can't wait to try these changes out.

moriz · Aug 08, 2008, 06:16 PM // 18:16

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Originally Posted by boogerboy72

death nova says hi

x9. game over mobs.

someone try jb/oou, with 2 mms, enchant some with jb, then the other mm, blow them up, do they all die with no shamblings spawned?

if you have shambling horrors, i'm PRETTY sure the jagged will survive. someone will have to test it though.

EPO Bot · Aug 08, 2008, 06:19 PM // 18:19

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Originally Posted by landt007

update really sux lol

Oh the humanity...

Master Ketsu · Aug 08, 2008, 06:50 PM // 18:50

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Originally Posted by Akaraxle

Hahaha oh wow. Can't wait to read the reasons behind this.

I think the reason is that Anet has finally realized that their previous nerfbat method wasn't getting the job done and was actually degenerating the game. The past year's balance updates have been in the form of "patch fix" nerfs designed to get rid of one or two overused builds. The problem is that this kind of swinging the nerfbat at whatever seemed to be the worst problem at the moment fixed a few things in the short run but caused the number of viable builds to grow smaller and smaller save the occasional buff...which made the overall balance issue worse in the long run.

Since most good builds are ussually centered around an elite, by specifically buffing a bunch of underpowered elites it greatly increases the number of builds that can be played. By increasing variety into the meta players will hopefully be more encouraged to run balanced builds that allow skilled players to deal with a number of things, rather then noobways.

Faer · Aug 08, 2008, 07:22 PM // 19:22

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Originally Posted by Kashrlyyk

And have no knockdown.

You are terrible.

In fact, Evisc/DSlash Warriors not only out-DPS Ursan and have knockdown of their own, they also have the option of packing multiple utility skills including, but not limited to, the functionalities of interrupting and party-wide support, and can use all these other utility skills without having to drop a form and therefore kill their DPS.

But never fear. Your ignorance has been pardoned. It's not your fault you are bad, it's ArenaNet's for handing out gummy bears with the release of their latest pet project. Sugar tends to confuse people in large amounts and has a detrimental effect on the human brain's ability to properly function.

Bryant Again · Aug 08, 2008, 07:29 PM // 19:29

Damn, Faer, it's good to have you back : )

Targren · Aug 08, 2008, 07:32 PM // 19:32

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Originally Posted by Zinger314

[OoU is] good in Corpseless areas...maybe?

Also, consider this: An on-demand minion-bomb.